Indie Hacker · San Francisco Bay Area
Damon Chen spent eight years describing himself as an average engineer at Cisco, then built two products past a million dollars a year with a toddler in the next room
Damon Chen
Calls himself a mediocre engineer, has the receipts to prove otherwise
The indie hacker canon is full of people who were obviously going to make it. Ex-Stripe, ex-Google, a Twitter following before the first product. Damon Chen is the opposite case and the more useful one. Eight years at Cisco. A job he calls mediocre with no apparent embarrassment. A one-year-old at home. Then the pandemic arrived, everyone was working from the kitchen table anyway, and he asked for six months of unpaid leave to find out whether he could build something of his own.
He built five things. That number is the story. Not one careful bet but five swings in half a year, with a baby, on no income. Indielog, a place for indie makers to vlog, came first. Three more followed and made nothing. The fifth was a way for businesses to collect video testimonials from customers, which is not a glamorous idea, and it worked from the day it launched.
Six thousand dollars and an ultimatum
Testimonial went up on Product Hunt selling lifetime access for a hundred and ninety-nine dollars. Thirty people bought it in two weeks, six thousand dollars in the bank, and he had a business. Not a big one. Two thousand dollars a month by the time the leave ran out.
Here is the part most founder stories cut. He wanted to quit. His wife agreed, with a condition that is a masterpiece of household negotiation: get to a hundred thousand dollars a year within twelve months or go back to a tech job. That is a real number and a real clock, set by the person with the most to lose if it went wrong. He made it in nine.
Then he did it again
Testimonial kept climbing: four hundred thousand a year and the first hire, then past eight hundred. Meanwhile customers kept describing the same unrelated problem, which was that they had documents they needed to interrogate and no good way to do it. He built PDF.ai in the early months of the AI wave, before the category filled up, and it moved faster than the first product. Two hundred thousand dollars in its first three months. Past one and a half million a year by May 2026.
The method has not changed since the kitchen table. He says he does not understand marketing or sales, so he never built a sales team. The product sells itself, search engines find it, and affiliates take a cut for sending people. Two businesses past a million a year on that alone, built by someone who started the decade calling himself average. Average engineers, it turns out, can ship five things in six months. Most people just never get the six months.
I'm an engineer who doesn't know much about marketing or sales. Instead, I focused on product-led growth.
Damon, explaining a business that has since passed a million a year without a sales team
The Rundown
The things Damon has actually shipped.
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Testimonial.to
Collect video testimonials from customers. The fifth side project, and the one that worked. Past $800K a year.
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PDF.ai
Chat with a document. Built early in the AI wave, $200K in its first three months, past $1.5M a year.
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The six months
Unpaid leave, a one-year-old, five products. The most productive half-year on this site.
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The ultimatum
$100K a year in twelve months or back to Cisco. Done in nine.
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Product-led growth
No sales team, ever. The product, search, and affiliates. Two businesses past a million on it.
Common questions about Damon Chen
- Who is Damon Chen?
- Damon Chen is an indie founder based in the San Francisco Bay Area. After eight years as an engineer at Cisco, he took six months of unpaid leave in 2020, built five side projects, and turned the fifth, Testimonial.to, into a business that reached $100,000 a year within nine months and later passed $800,000. His second product, PDF.ai, passed $1.5 million a year by May 2026.
- What is Testimonial.to?
- Testimonial.to is a tool that lets businesses collect and display video and text testimonials from their customers. Damon Chen launched it on Product Hunt in 2020, selling lifetime access for $199, and it grew past $800,000 in annual revenue.
- What is PDF.ai?
- PDF.ai is a tool for asking questions of PDF documents using AI. Damon Chen built it after Testimonial.to customers kept describing the problem, launched it early in the AI wave, and it reached $200,000 in revenue in its first three months and passed $1.5 million a year by May 2026.
- How did Damon Chen leave Cisco?
- He took six months of unpaid leave when the pandemic began, built Testimonial.to during that time, and quit Cisco once it reached $2,000 a month in revenue. His wife agreed on the condition that he reach $100,000 in annual revenue within a year or return to a tech job; he reached it in nine months.
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